Mark Diehl’s New York Times crossword—Amy’s write-up
It’s not every day you see your employer as a crossword answer. Here’s 18a. [Company that launched the game FarmVille], ZYNGA. Trip Payne and I are co-editors of Zynga’s Crosswords With Friends, of course. (I love my job!)
This being a Saturday NYT puzzle, there are all sorts of entries that never appear in Crosswords With Friends’ easy puzzles. HEME, TUN, PAWL, POMACE … they’re workable in a tough puzzle (if not especially welcome), though. There are also some longer answers that feel a little off to me. TRASHMOUTH instead of pottymouth? Never encountered it. THINK YOUNG doesn’t ring a bell. STEADY DIET feels awkward, and BEAN PLANTS is, well, I guess that’s a thing but it’s not exciting. The standard demonym for the people of Bhutan is Bhutanese, not BHUTANI, so I’m not keen on that answer, either (see also: IRANI in far too many crosswords out there).
Six things:
- 13a. [First two-time Nobelist], MARIE CURIE. She remains the only person ever to win the Nobel in two different sciences, doesn’t she?
- 16a. [Slice, e.g.], ORANGE SODA / 33a. [Ingredient in a Caesar cocktail], CLAM JUICE. Okay, we’re going to concoct a new cocktail that includes clam juice and orange pop. What else should be in this drink? (Other than an anti-emetic.) But not beer, nobody needs that BEER GUT.
- 7d. [The bird in Hitchcock’s “The Birds”], CROW. This is inaccurate and weird. “The bird”?? There were lots of crows, some gulls, and assorted other birds. I don’t know why the clue is worded this way. [Kind of bird in the school scenes of “The Birds”]—is that better?
- 23d. [Coconuts, to a maroon on an island, maybe], STEADY DIET. Putting aside the legitimacy of the entry, this clue is terrible. “A maroon”? You know what noun sense of maroon referring to a person is more common than “person who has been marooned”? The sense that refers to escaped slaves in the Caribbean in the 1600s and 1700s, or their descendants. I don’t think I’ve ever encountered maroon as a noun the way it’s used in this clue—and when there is that other meaning, why why why would you put this word in a clue? Especially when basically all of the West Indies consists of islands.
- 36d. [Witty Garofalo], JANEANE. I always liked her comedy, and I miss it. I looked on YouTube for a good video to show you, but a half-hour video is a weird addition to a blog post, and the shorter clips didn’t grab me.
- 55a. [Curling and rugby, but not boxing, in the Olympics], TEAM EVENTS. I feel like those are team sports rather than team events. What’s the lingo in Olympics circles?
Three stars from me. Would’ve been 3.25 but I had to deduct points for the “maroon” issue.
Martin Leechman’s Wall Street Journal crossword, “Jeez!”
A yoked pair of Gs inserted into phrases yields giggles.
- 23a. [Panhandling penguin, perhaps?] POLAR BEGGAR (polar bear). 6a [lake Pend Oreille is in its panhandle] IDAHO.
- 29a. [Condition of some 1990s hip-hop pants?] BAGGY STATE (Bay State). 95d [Raises, as saggy slacks] HIKES UP.
- 40a. [Amish transportation with a driving force?] IMPULSE BUGGY (impulse buy).
- 62a. [Title for an expert at side-to-side motions?] PRINCE OF WAGGLES (Prince of Wales). 95d [Makes side-to-side motions] HULAS.
- 87a. [Quakers living in quagmires?] BOGGY FRIENDS (boyfriends). Amish and Quakers, symmetrified!
- 101a. [Gravy that’s too watery?] SOGGY SAUCE (soy sauce).
- 108a. [Any but the Hogwarts Express?] MUGGLE TRAIN (mule train). 68d [Old parade sights] BANDWAGONS.
- 61d [Raucous squawk] BLAT.
- 65d [Staff leaders?] G CLEFS. Gs!
- 20a [Lunch spot] DINER, 54d [Lunch spots] CAFÉS.
- 11a [Match makeup] SETS, 81a [Stunning serve] ACE, 98a [Veus’s sister] SERENA.
- 75a [Pamplona runners] TOROS, 88d [Pamplona cry] OLÉ, 109d [Quaint cheer] RAH.
—— I can keep this up for a while, you know ——
- 26a [“…__ comes to that”] IF IT, 53d [Dealing with the situation] ON IT, 59d [Words of approximation] OR SO.
- 24d [Sources of annoyance] BANES, 39d [Chronic complainers] NAGS, 113a [Bother] EAT AT.
—— But perhaps I shouldn’t——
In fact, I should probably sign off for now.
Andy Kravis’s LA Times crossword – Derek’s write-up
Well, this was certainly a lot less nerve-wracking than Andy’s Stumper from last week! A tad more challenging, perhaps, than a usual LAT Saturday, but certainly not torturous at all. I see the mini-theme with 1-Across starting with ABC and 53-Across starting with XYZ, and yes, this 70-worder is pangrammatic! That means lots of high-scoring Scrabble words! A solid 4.7 stars for this one.
Some highlights:
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- 24A [“Cool, dude!”] GNARLY! – This speech, whether is it “Valley Girl” or “Surfer Dude” English, was quite popular back in the 80s. Yes, I’m old.
- 35A [They’re matched by foundations] SKIN TONES – I hear the singer Rihanna has a new line of makeup out, and it is quite popular because of its variety of tones for women of all colors.
- 44A [Big Ten sch. that competes for the Paul Bunyan Trophy] MSU – Michigan State University is certainly in the news of late, and for all the wrong reasons. I know a lot of Sparty fans in this area, and they aren’t happy at all. Is this Penn State bad, or worse?
- 1D [“Honey, I’m Good” singer Grammer] ANDY – This song was on the radio quite a lot.
- 22D [Britt Reid’s alter ego] GREEN HORNET – I liked this show a lot; it was quite similar to the Batman series of the late 60s.
- 33D [1980s-’90s Notre Dame football coach Lou] HOLTZ – This guy is legendary in my neck of the woods, so this was a gimme!
- 46D [“Miracle on Ice” loser] USSR – This could easily have been tied in to 1-Across and 26-Down, which are already connected, instead of just repeating the “Miracle on Ice” phrase. Just my opinion!
Apologies for the late post, but there was a major emergency at my job and it is now 6:30 pm on Saturday and I just got home!
Matthew Sewell’s Newsday crossword, “Saturday Stumper” – Derek’s write-up
I am getting better at Matthew’s puzzles. By better, I mean they don’t take the entire 30 minutes! This one was tough, but not head-smashing-into-the-wall tough, so that was nice. Had a rough day today with work, and this post is going up at almost 7 pm. I apologize for the long delay, and maybe you’ll catch this review on Sunday morning! This was actually a fun puzzle, which means we are in for a doozy soon. 4.4 stars.
Some faves:
- 17A [Razor Vacs, for example] DIRT DEVILS – Never heard of it, but I don’t vacuum much. We have hardwood floors!
- 23A [Early-fall sports news topic] PENNANT RACE – I figured this was baseball, and I started to write in WORLD SERIES, but I am glad I didn’t!
- 28A [One will get you about 110 JPY] USD – One US dollar is equal to 110 Japanese Yen. Great clue!
- 50A [Choice words] I’LL TAKE THAT – This was also one of my favorites. Another excellent misdirectional clue.
- 52A [SCOTUS topics] RTS – Is this an abbreviation for rights, as in human rights?
- 63A [2011 droll autobiography best-seller] BOSSY PANTS – This is the Tina Fey book. I think she is really funny, so maybe I will try and read this someday.
- 4D [They’re attached to dorsal vertebrae] LATS – As in your latissimus dorsi muscles, which are under your arms. Somehow this clue gave me a connotation of something fish-related!
- 7D [NBA slam-dunking great] ERVING – Didn’t think of him, because he is usually in puzzles as DR. J!
- 37D [Elizabeth Barrett called it “a sensation”] THE RAVEN – Most people are not avid poetry readers (as least it doesn’t seem that way), but back before there were several other forms of media, this surely was one. But even today, it still seems that way, and that is the indication of true writing excellence. Go read it again today!
Again, this has been a rough day. I’m going to find some beer and go to bed. Maybe I will wake up in time to see Roger Federer!
Some good stuff in the NYT but trivia laden imo
The crossing of SAZERAC with HARARE and PAVANE didn’t being me joy but otherwise a nice LAT – AK always seems to drop in some obscure stuff
The Stumper was a challenge as usual
NYT: I didn’t mind learning PAWL, and I knew POMACE but only at the periphery of my vocab. Any puzzle with MARIE CURIE in it gets an extra star from me.
I went to China for the first time back in the mid 1980s, for 3 weeks. Water and ice were not safe to drink, so they served ORANGE SODA with everything, and it was tepid because, you know, the ice. I can attest with complete certainty that it doesn’t go well with Chinese food. Every delicious meal was ruined, so I learned to beg for boiled water instead, and have not had even a sip of Orange Soda for over 30 years.
I find that cream soda goes nicely with Chinese cuisine.
Re THINK YOUNG in the NYT — I think this is mostly “in the language” as part of the old Pepsi slogan “For those who think young”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_Those_Who_Think_Young
I think Amy’s review is pretty spot on. Did anyone else guess SUSTENANCE for 23D? I was really proud of myself for about a minute til I realized I was wrong on that one.
I had STAPLE DIET for a long time.
I had STAPLE FOOD
Are we supposed to know TEMPEH? I thought the crossing of HEME and TEMPEH was tough. The HEM was easy to intuit, but the last letter could have just as easily been an A as an E, or maybe even an O.
NE was tough. The rest of the puzzle was pretty easy for me. I just listened to the Ricky Nelson song the other day on Sirius.
I initially inserted TEAM SPORTS, but TEAM EVENTS did not bother me.
Steve
HEME is a standalone noun. HEMO and HEMA are prefixes.
TEMPEH was a near-gimme for me (could have been SEITAN). We have a lot of friends who won’t eat meat in our house, either because they’re vegetarian or because they keep kosher and we don’t. So we serve tofu and TEMPEH and a lot of fish.
Too many oddities for me to like this one. Never heard of POMACE, didn’t recognize TRASHMOUTH or THINKYOUNG. BHUTANI is just silly, as Amy says.
I also had TEAMSPORTS first. My best error was PAP for “a lot of top 40 music” and I was disappointed when I had to change it.
I thought the ZYNGA/MARYLOU crossing edged into Natick county, at least.
NYT – very hard and not very fun
Huh. This was my fastest Saturday at 19 minutes and change, and I’m at best a medium-paced solver. I’m really surprised to see that even Jeff Chen couldn’t finish it. I thought the fill was clean and impressive with just a little trash, and the long answers were mostly very good. My grades are usually way lower than Crossword Fiend’s average, so I’m extra-shocked by how lowly this is rated.
Speaking of the Nobel Prize: There’s a company called RenovaCare (RCAR) which will probably win this someday for the CEO. It has a new technology to heal burn patients with skin stem cells taken from a small patch of their own bodies sprayed on them. In just a few days the burn patients in the worst condition are restored to like-new state and can be sent home whole.
LAT: The NE was hard to complete, even though I had a few of the downs. The SAZERAC/ZONES crossing really had me stumped. I had to run the whole alphabet and even then I didn’t quite make sense of it. Overall, I liked the puzzle a lot, though. It was a nice Saturday challenge.
NYT: On seeing “maroon” in the clue, “a marooned person” was not the first sense that came to me, and I think the word is a sketchy choice. I liked LIGATED, UMLAUTS (wouldn’t it be fun if an umlaut had an umlaut?) and TEMPEH (nom nom nom).
Also, I have a question: in a recent puzzle, can’t remember when, there was an answer ZWIEBACK which I thought should have been spelled ZWEIBACK. Doesn’t it mean “baked twice”? So wouldn’t it be ZWEI? I don’t speak German; perhaps someone out there knows about this?
“Zwieback” does mean baked twice, but the prefix ‘zwi(e)’ occurs in other German words. “Zwielicht” is twilight, ‘zwischen’ is between, for example.
In English, after all, we say twice-baked, not two-baked.
Thanks, David!
I found the NYT puzzle surprisingly challenging, as a medium solver, coming in at 40+ minutes! I got the top left and bottom right sections fast, then got stuck in the wide middle even after STEADY DIET. There were plenty of clues and/or answers that I didn’t like (ERRATA PAGE, TEAM EVENTS, TRASH MOUTH) and plenty that I did. Overall, I rated it a smidge over average.
Linus Pauling had two Nobel Prizes: one in Chemistry and the Nobel Peace Prize. I don’t remember years. I looked, but if anyone mentioned it already, I apologize.
It’s probably too late to ask, but I do not understand (in the Saturday Stumper) why [Carroll name variant] clues ALISON.
Can someone explain why? Please??
I think it’s just that Alison is a variant of the name Alice, and Lewis Carroll wrote “Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland.” I didn’t care for the clue, because that’s just a really weird way to point to ALISON.
Thanks, Amy