Tuesday, November 10, 2020

Jonesin' 6;12 (Derek) 


LAT 3:13 (Derek) 


NYT 3:43 (Amy) 


Universal 3:30 (Jim Q) 


WSJ 6:13 (Jim P) 


Xword Nation untimed (Ade) 


Elizabeth C. Gorski’s Crsswrd Nation puzzle (Week 493), “Vowel-Sounding Fun”—Ade’s take

Crossword Nation puzzle solution, Week 493: “Vowel-Sounding Fun”

Hello there, everyone! Here is hoping that you’re doing well and, after what felt like the longest week of many of our lives, recovered from all the drama that was Election Day/Week!

Today’s puzzle is very similar to Monday’s New York Times’ offering, as we have a long-vowel-sound ladder featured at the starts of the five theme entries.

  • MAY I COME IN (17A: [Query from a visitor at the door])
  • ME AND MRS. JONES (24A: [Billy Paul hit song with the lyric “We got a thing goin’ on”]) – “Meeeeee aaaaaaaaaannnnnnddd….Mrs.! Mrs. Jones!!”
  • MY LIPS ARE SEALED (36A: [“I won’t tell anyone”])
  • MO’ BETTER BLUES (46A: [Spike Lee film starring Denzel Washington as a jazz trumpeter])
  • MOO SHU PORK (57A: [Chinese dish served with hoisin sauce])

There were not too many moments in solving the grid that made me go BLAH (45D: [“Been there, done that” feeling]), though I was thrown for a loop with TOFF given that I don’t believe that I’ve ever come across that, even with my multiple times that I’ve been in London (6A: [Stylish gent, in London]). A good number of pretty long non-themed entries gave this puzzle even more crunch, with SET TIMES (37D: [Fixed appointment hours]) and FINESSES, something I do not specialize in, standing out (9D: [Handles tactfully]). ON CUE was sneakily good, especially given its clue (12D: [As expected, as an entrance]). Will definitely have to take the clue to ONION to task, only for the fact that I can not have a raw onion as a topping on my burger (11D: [Ring on a burger]). Cooked and/or caramelized, or bust for me! Here is hoping that getting this done now prevents me from being my usual night owl self and staying up until ONE AM, but I doubt it (7D: [An hour after midnight]).

“Sports will make you smarter” moment of the day: OMNI (18D: [Present opener?]) – The state of Georgia has been on a lot of people’s lips this past week, as it looks for all the world that the Peach State will turn blue and put President-Elect Biden over 300 electoral college votes. In 1988, the Omni Coliseum in Atlanta, the long-time home of the Atlanta Hawks, hosted the 1988 Democratic National Convention. The arena hosted some big sporting events as well, including the 1977 NCAA Men’s Basketball Final Four in which Marquette University — coached by Brooklyn native Al McGuire — won its only national title in McGuire’s last-ever game as a college head coach. The Omni also hosted the 1993 NCAA Women’s Final Four and, in the national championship game, saw Texas Tech’s Sheryl Swoopes set the record for most points in a Division I national title game with 47 points as Texas Tech defeated Ohio State.

Thank you so much for the time, everybody! Have a wonderful and safe rest of your day and, as always, keep solving!

Take care!


Robert Fisher’s New York Times crossword—Amy’s write-up

NY Times crossword solution, 11 10 20, no. 1110

Beverages and those who serve them are the name of the game today, with familiar(ish) words or phrases clued as if they’re job titles. Except that two of them are job titles, in non-beverage circles, and the other two aren’t.

  • 20a. [Sommelier?], PORT AUTHORITY. Port wine. Eww. You can have my share.
  • 29a. [Bartender?], DRAFTSPERSON. As in draft beer on tap. Not a super common term, but a draftsperson might draw art, draft legal documents, or draw schematics and plans. Are any of you readers draftspeople of some sort?
  • 46a. [Soda jerk?], FOUNTAIN HEAD. I pretty much only see the term as the Ayn Rand title, but Merriam-Webster reminds me that it also means “a spring that is the source of a stream.” Been a while since I’ve encountered a soda jerk.
  • 56a. [Barista?], GROUNDSKEEPER. The other real job in the theme. Shout-out to Groundskeeper Willie of The Simpsons! “My retirement grease!!”

Fave fill: “WHAT OF IT?”, “INDULGE ME.” Less keen on crosswordese SERE quizzing Tuesday solvers, -IOR, ERAT, NO HASSLE, and a bunch of abbrevs (EST IMO SYL NCO SSA ETA). At least AT NO was clued as a partial rather than atomic number‘s abbrev … but it dupes both AT IT, NO-NOS, and NO HASSLE. No.

Five more things:

  • 35a. [How Marcie addresses Peppermint Patty, for no apparent reason], SIR. Hey, we’re not privy to their whole relationship. Maybe Peppermint Patty asked Marcie to use “sir.”
  • 1d. [It will have you seeing things], SCOPE. People do use “scope” as shorthand for assorted specific devices, yes? Microscopes, telescopes, bronchoscopes, colonoscopes?
  • 2d. [Discussing politics and religion with strangers, often], NO-NOS. Ha. On Saturday, there were a great many brief discussions of politics with strangers in city celebrations. These were in accordance with etiquette.
  • 9d. [Proceed without restraint], LET RIP. Tell me two things you “let rip.” Farts and … what else?
  • 33d. [What an onslaught of political ads may do], ANNOY. Georgians, you’re in our thoughts, since your political ads are going to keep coming for another eight weeks.

3.25 stars from me.

Gary Cee’s Wall Street Journal crossword, “Here’s to Ya!”—Jim P’s review

The theme answers end with things you raise, as signaled by the revealer, “RAISE ‘EM UP!” [Words before a toast, and what you can do to the ends of the starred answers].

Wall St Journal crossword solution · “Here’s to Ya!” · Gary Cee · Tue., 11.10.20

  • 17a. [*Housetop with dual slopes] GABLE ROOF. Raise the roof. Hmm. I would’ve thought “gabled roof” would be the proper way to say this. But I appear to be wrong on this one.
  • 24a. [*Cold War barrier] IRON CURTAIN. Raise the curtain.
  • 36a. [*Traditional final leg of the Triple Crown] BELMONT STAKES. Raise the stakes.
  • 51a. [*Where spirits are mixed] COCKTAIL BAR. Raise the bar.

Each raise phrase is easily in the language, and I love the consistency in that they each require the use of the definite article (as opposed to phrases like “raise a stink” or “raise an eyebrow”).  Very smooth. However, I’m less sure about the revealer. It just doesn’t feel as in-the-language as everything else.

I also had trouble with the fill which leaned unusually heavily on crosswordese like ELEC, RELO, A-ONE, BUCO, ETS, EGAD, and awkwardly plural REDOS. We’ve seen most of these many times before, but taken together, it was noticeable.

My other trouble spot was the cluing in that SE corner which seemed unusually thorny for a Tuesday. I didn’t know [Bursa, e.g.] should give me SAC, and that crossed with a proper name I didn’t know, AUGUST [Playwright Strindberg]. The clues for USAGE [Established procedure] and SITS [Doesn’t appear in the lineup] felt quite opaque as well. I mean, it’s Tuesday; how about a clue for AUGUST that’s not a turn-of-the-20th-century Swedish playwright?

Aside from my struggles there, BLACK GOLD is great, and KEYSTROKE is nice with those scrabbly Ks. TEA ROSE, ICE CAPS, GOPRO, and EMINEM are the other long assets.

Clues of note:

  • 42a. [Barbecuing need]. SAUCE. I beg to differ, unless you call a marinade a SAUCE (which I wouldn’t). Slathering your grilled meats with BBQ sauce has its place, but it is definitely not the only way to BBQ. Want to try a flavor of Guam (my ancestral home)? Here’s a pretty standard recipe for BBQ ribs.
  • 1d. [Minecraft, e.g.]. PC GAME. This game is played on almost any device it seems, so calling it a PC GAME doesn’t seem quite right.
  • 10d. [Office worker’s depression?]. KEYSTROKE. Oof. I know it’s meant to be jokey, but people are seriously suffering due to home and workplace issues during this pandemic. I would’ve gone a different route.
  • 18d. [Marshall Mathers’s performing name]. EMINEM. You don’t hear of too many people named Marshall, so this one’s good to store in the ol’ memory banks.

Not my favorite Gary Cee puzzle, mostly due to ancillary issues, but I enjoyed the theme just fine. 3.4 stars.

Chris Gross and Zhouqin Burnikel’s Universal crossword, “Raise Your Bowl” — Jim Q’s write-up

Looks like a debut for Chris Gross! An excellent one at that- congrats!

THEME: Types of soup can be found backwards (or in this case, south to north) in common phrases.

Universal crossword solution · “Raise Your Bowl” · Chris Gross · Zhouqin Burnikel · Tue., 11.10.20


  • GOSPEL TRUTH. Turtle soup. 
  • NORA EPHRON. Pea soup. 
  • CALICO CATS. Taco. This answer also reminds me of this video
  • IT’S SO SIMPLE. Miso. 
  • and of course the apt revealer SOUP’S UP!

This is the ideal hidden word theme- all themers are solidly in-language, the hidden words are hidden across multiple words, the theme is consistent, and although I’ve never had TACO soup (or TURTLE soup!), all of the soups are familiar. Also, the revealer could not land more solidly.

I guess CHICKEN NOODLE is hard to included backwards in a common phrase?

It’s been a while since I’ve had an under 4-minute time for a Universal, but the smooth fill offered by Chris and CC coupled with the sleek keyboard that came with my new Macbook made it happen.

There is, of course, one big problem which has nothing to do with the construction. I was fortunate enough to solve with circles included since I downloaded the puzzle from this site. The masses will be solving sans circles (either in print or on the webapp), and are likely to have a different experience since the visual element is lost and they are asked to count squares backwards and mentally circle them. While I was able to catch on and appreciate what was happening mid-solve with the letters being circled, I am not likely to have seen the soups until post-solve had I been solving in the format that Universal offers most people.

I hope the fix is coming soon, because this is a wonderful puzzle that may not be fully appreciated as it could be by some solvers.

4.1 stars with circles. 2 stars without.

Matt Jones’s Jonesin’ Crossword, “Leg Work” – Derek’s write-up

Jonesin’ 11/10/2020

I found this one a little thornier than normal in a couple of spots; other areas were a breeze. And how is the word SPIDER not in this puzzle?? Here are the theme answers:

  • 17A [They have two legs each] HUMAN-OSTRICH-APE
  • 32A [They have four legs each] ZEBRA-IGUANA-HARE
  • 40A [They have six legs each] WASP-MOSQUITO-ANT
  • 55A [They have eight legs each] TICK-OCTOPUS-MITE

See what I mean? The OCTOPUS is obvious, but no SCORPION or SPIDER in the last theme entry, but I’ll bet a lot of that has to do with squeezing in 4 15-letter entries! Well done, if you’re OK with the creepy crawlies present in this puzzle! A solid 4.5 stars, and tons of nominees for the Obscure-Pop-Culture-Reference-of-the-Week, which has been missing for a few months!

Those promised comments:

  • 62A [Comedian Sarah who once wrote “Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard”] MILLICAN – I don’t know who this is. I have included an image of her. Perhaps you do? This is definitely the OPCRotW! She is British, and I don’t think she has been in any TV or movies. Yet.
  • 25D [“Is ___ fact?”] THAT A – This has been in the NYT, each time clued as [“They went __-way]. I like this way better, but the NYT has a policy on partials, and this may violate it.
  • 26D [Poet Gil Scott-___] HERON – “The revolution will not be televised.” That is this dude’s quote.
  • 28D [Daft, in Derby] BARMY – Speaking of British, by British slang is getting slightly better by doing their cryptics more. I am still not great, but I can finish a few!
  • 32D [“Holy moly!”] ZOWIE – Impossible to get without crossings. We have a lot of words that mean what this clue says!
  • 41D [Tiny ear bone] OSSICLE – Any of the three ear bones can be called this. I had no idea.
  • 48D [Shimerman of “Deep Space Nine”] ARMIN – I am not a Trekkie, but I recognize this DS9 character pictured here!
  • 49D [Streisand’s “Funny Girl” role] BRICE – I knew this, but the other obscure-pop-culture in the corner made this harder than it should be!

I will stop there. Another new Jonesin’ next week!

Jerry Edelstein’s LA Times crossword – Derek’s write-up

LAT 11/10/2020

What? No revealer? Evidently not, since it really isn’t needed! Our theme, which is played out in the circled squares, is all six ways to arrange the letters A, E and R.

  • 16A [Carrier to Cork and Shannon] AER LINGUS
  • 22A [She played Ika in “Quest for Fire”] RAE DAWN CHONG
  • 29A [“Really?”]ARE YOU SURE?”
  • 41A [Best Actor nominee for “The Crying Game”] STEPHEN REA
  • 46A [Ignore, with “to”] TURN A DEAF EAR
  • 59A [Period preceding Reagan’s presidency] CARTER ERA

One small nitpick: All of these are actual words, except for the entry for EAR, which should arguably be the easiest to clue! The sequence EAR is hidden in the word FEAR, and while the theme is consistent, it is missing that small tinge of excellence. And now you see why there is no revealer; what would it be? JUMBLED HEARING, or something even sillier? Plus, there are already a solid SIX theme entries in the grid, so no worries. there. Very nicely done, Jerry! 4.1 stars.

A few other things:

  • 38A [Back of a hit 45 record] B-SIDE – When was the last time you saw a 45 record? For me, probably 40 years or so??
  • 58A [Italian sauce with pine nuts] PESTO – This is making me hungry …
  • 6D [Luxury Honda] ACURA – There is not an Acura dealership within 75 miles of my house. Indiana is different …
  • 13D [Onetime Japanese emperors] MIKADOS – Why do I feel like I don’t know anything about Japanese history? Hm. Probably because I don’t!
  • 17D [Composer Anderson and Jim Croce’s “Bad, Bad” Brown] LEROYS – Don’t know the composer, but, speaking of vinyl records, this was one of the 33 records my parents owned. Still like Jim Croce to this day!
  • 50D [South American grilled meat dish] ASADO – Then, what is carne asada? My Spanish is terrible.
  • 57D [Contrary girl of rhyme] MARY – I haven’t heard this nursery rhyme in probably 40 years either! Do kids even know these anymore? I don’t think my son knows them at all.

Have a safe and healthy week!

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16 Responses to Tuesday, November 10, 2020

  1. Mutman says:

    NYT: I came here to understand what a DRAFT SNEDSON was, only to find that NUB, LET RUN, DICED were all wrong.

    And Amy, why don’t you think a sommelier isn’t a job? I thought that’s who fine dining restaurants hired to create their wine selections??

    • pannonica says:

      Pretty sure she meant that two of the answers are also job titles: DRAFTSPERSON and GROUNDSKEEPER.

      • Billy Boy says:

        Sommelier, rightly or wrongly (First you have to be born with the correct brain-wiring) is one of the hardest certifications to earn, it is quite the job; true Sommeliers are very rare; Restaurant Soms are mostly not Sommeliers: No one cares, Billy …

        12D and 31D are two rather wrong answers – I’ve no recollection of an ETA on a boarding pass. Boarding Time – yes, ETD – yup. Maybe your itinerary or your app, but not your boarding pass.

        One does not chop finely by hand to rice – one uses a (OK, manually operated) ricer to make white baby poo, disgusting way to serve potatoes, wholly devoid of any texture.

        And without Honda Corp., 47D is technically wrong as well.
        There are several other awkward, not clever cluings in this unenjoyable puzzle.

      • Mutman says:

        That makes more sense. My bad.

  2. huda says:

    NYT: I like it!
    Yes, we use SCOPE all the time, but mostly meaning microscope. Since my husband is an amateur astronomer as well, we specify for telescope at our house.
    Speaking of which, I heard through my husband about this wonderful program that has placed telescopes strategically around the globe to ensure 24hr observation, but the cool thing is that they placed them in schools and use it as an opportunity to engage kids in astrophysics– e.g. rural girls in India who would have never had such an opportunity otherwise. Incredibly cool: Global Jet Watch, founded by Katherine Blundell- https://www.globaljetwatch.net/news/what-is-the-global-jet-watch/

  3. Jenni Levy says:

    Peppermint Patty did not ask Marcie to call her “sir.” In fact, she specifically asked her not to for a while and then gave up.

    And yes, I had a lot of “Peanuts” books when I was a kid. Why do you ask?

  4. JohnH says:

    AUGUST Strindberg in the WSJ was a gimme for me. I’m not defending my particular areas of knowledge, although the turn of that century may sound remote, but it was the birth of modernism in art, literature, and music, for goodness sake. (“Miss Julie” in particular is still often performed or assigned reading.) OTOH let’s just say that I hope I won’t get too much grief if someone else’s interest feels remote to me!

      • JohnH says:

        Thanks. The world deserves to have a little fun at his expense.

        He’s always been cast as the bad boy, maybe the franker one or maybe the male pig, to Ibsen’s early political clarity and late fantasies that stretch what a play can be. He’s not nearly as popular as Ibsen. For myself, I have a paperback of seven of his plays and find them less than fun. Shrill or forced. But what the heck. As Ibsen suggests, it’s not like the dawn of recorded history. Oscar Wilde is still a known quantity, too.

  5. PJ says:

    UC 41a – I think this misses the mark. Assets are balanced by liabilities and owners equity. A debit balances a credit. I think a debit increases an asset. But I took my two accounting courses a long time ago and never returned to that department’s floor.

  6. amw8 says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong but the LAT entry for EAR is not, in fact, hidden in the word FEAR. It’s “turn a deaf ear” not “turn a dea fear”! Very solid puzzle!

    • marciem says:

      good point, amw8… exactly right.

      How about “change of time” (going off era) for a title/revealer? Since we are at the end of one era and the beginning of another, seems appropriate :) .

  7. Jerry says:

    Yes. It was “turn a deaf ear.”

  8. Joan Macon says:

    Gareth, I guess you are too young to remember Leroy Anderson’ s “Sleigh Ride” and “Blue Tango”, both of which are really beautiful songs!

  9. Rahsaan says:


    I have a collection of about 2,000 45s!!! Would love to share some great music with you!!!

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